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And the assumption is that most people would not engage in that kind of behavior unless they are card counting. Asked 7 years, 3 months ago. It is some fraction of 1 percent depending on house rules against a "skilled" player who plays optimally but doesn't vary his bets based on card-counting. This is further reduced with fewer decks in the shoe. You'd stick with the odds, and play only the other A perfectly sensible and logical position, which is, in essence, the same position the casino takes. EpsilonVector: If casinos took bets where they didn't have an edge, they'd go out of business. I understand that. TomAu Or by "beat the game" do you mean beat the other players? This is a form of "trolling. This flaw and thus card counting can actually be neutralized in two ways: Shuffling manually after each hand - but that slows down the game and thus reduces casino winnings on the game that already gives them a rather small house edge. Card counter Kenny Uston won a court case in New Jersey that prohibits Atlantic City casinos from barring or harassing card counters. OK this actually makes sense. Only if you've used a counting device, or properly cheated etc, but then they also throw you in jail after taking back the money : Of course, there's nothing to say you aren't going to suffer a few accidents "falling down the stairs" on your way out of the casino I'm still not convinced. What card counters mostly do is to vary their bet sizes in their own favor. As a slightly off topic followup, do casinos typically let you keep what you won if they do catch you card counting? Well, the very odds of the game are per se in the casino's favour -- it turns out they're not a charity : If you want to play a fair game, simply don't go to a casino in the first place NeilCoffey: What you said is basically true, except that the best players can beat the game by varying their bets at appropriate times. Card counting ISN'T illegal. Card counters exploit a flaw in the game implementation which is not actually part of the rules of the game. That's the point of counting cards. TomAu But isn't that essentially if "the appropriate times" are derived by "card counting" or methods that the casino decides "aren't fair" on their scheme of making a living off an unfair game? Why is card counting considered illegal in Blackjack? Hot Network Questions. Michael Borgwardt Michael Borgwardt 2 2 bronze badges. Meaning that if card counters were forced to "flat bet," they would lose. So "bet management" is a key skill in the game. Home Questions Tags Users Unanswered. This strategy calls for the big player to "table hop" in a seemingly random fashion but actually based on signals from his teammates. Sign up to join this community. That's just a theoretical construct.

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Card counting isn't considered illegal. They are allowed to take "defensive" measures such as shuffling up after every deal. Not gonna happen. Needless to say, "trolling" and "table hopping," whether or not for the purpose of making money, while not illegal, are socially gauche. You have a few advantages, but also have to play by strict and predictable conventions, but the thousand can play in any manner they choose. Is that all there is to it, or is there a valid gameplay justification for this? See my answer below. Unless you use a "device" such as a computer to do so in Nevada, which is a felony under Nevada law. The rules of blackjack say nothing about dealing multiple hands from the same pre-shuffled stack - but that's exactly what makes card counting possible. Feedback post: New moderator reinstatement and appeal process revisions. Active 5 years, 6 months ago. This isn't cheating in any sense of the word. You wouldn't risk your money betting against someone with such an advantage would you? Just a little addition to the previous answer: Imagine you have the opportunity to play blackjack against a thousand people. On one hand, gaming establishments have the unquestioned right to protect themselves against so-called "card counters" who have developed expertise in the game of "blackjack" "twenty-one". So casinos will eject players for that kind of behavior alone, whether or not connected with card counting. It is negative against a skilled card counter who varies his bets. EpsilonVector EpsilonVector 1 1 gold badge 2 2 silver badges 6 6 bronze badges. I believe that if you have won it legally, they cannot take it back. Viewed 91k times. Ask Question. You also know that one of those thousand is capable of card-counting. KeithS: It used to be more like 0. Continuous shuffling machines - but players and dealers hate those, claim that they destroy the atmosphere, etc. So why is card counting a justification for casinos to kick people out? The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. But Nevada courts do tend to side with the casinos for economic reasons. On the other hand, neither card counting nor the use of a legal subterfuge such as a disguise to gain access to this table game is illegal under Nevada law. Linked 4. Actually, it is not the "mechanic," that makes for card counting. New post lock available on meta sites: Policy Lock. If you are too good you get thrown out. As entertainment goes, not bad. Obviously, a card counter will cost them money, but if that is the only justification, then it's like the casino is cheating- they only allow sucky players to play. But card counters overcome this advantage by betting big on certain "good" hands and betting small on most other "bad" ones. Then they "jump" their bets by five or ten times to take advantage of these situations, and bet a "basic" unit at other times, shifting the odds in their favor. Some casinos use them, but most seem to prefer making a fuss about card counters. What card counters do is to watch for a handful of situations that come up occasionally, where the player is favored. They may have the right to choose not to play with you, but the games in which they did play with you should be considered legitimate, right? TimLymington: If casinos were "even money" against a handful of "best" players and favorites against everyone else, they'd be ok. Yes, even if the game was precisely even; the mathematics is interesting. Casinos pretend that they let you gamble in a game that has certain rules, but if you use skill to win, then you are not allowed to play, even if you play within the confines of those rules. Active Oldest Votes. I was under the impression that if all players play by what the casino deems are the accepted rules, then statistically, the players collectively are essentially bound to lose to the house. Sounds like fraud to me. As far as I can see, a card counter is still subject to the same mechanic as any other players, but they are able to perform better then most people within these confines. Tom Au Tom Au I heard that the house edge on a person playing by basic strategy was much lower than that; an eight-deck game with no additional rules benefiting the player like hitting split aces or dealer must hit soft 17 has a house edge of about. This case presents a conflict between two inconsistent public policies that have developed over the years with regard to the gaming industry. Casinos have the right to deny service to anyone, and of makes sense to deny players from playing a game in which they have an advantage versus the house.